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Originally Posted by Guinness
Just like Christianity is a religion of peace and compassion..
Lets ignore inquisitions, slavery and the morally corrupt religious leaders of past and present.
The kind of peace that allows those who practice the faith to annihilate those who follow any other religion...
Aztec, Mayan, Aborigine, American Indian, Polynesian, Chinese, Japanese, African etc..etc..may give a few similar arguments against christianity
The kind of faith that strips women then ties them to a stake and burns them alive, the kind of faith that give those who do not follow it a chance to convert to Christianity or be killed..crusades anyone?..however devout..just holy murderers.
Yes there are muslim leaders condemning these atrocities, unfortunately they don't make it into the redtop rag reporting that passes for English or American media.
Thing is..we are educated, we can make an informed choice between creationism, Darwinism, Atheism, Alien seeding, a stork that carries newborns in its beak and a multitude of other religious beliefs and we have learned that it aint worth killing people for. We have learned that religion isn't even worth arguing about anymore..you either believe or you don't, and good for you whatever floats your boat....a persons religious belief is less important to anyone other than themselves than the benches outside the market hall.
It's only 50 or so years since pregnant girls were shuffled off to secret convents in Ireland and treated like scum, 100 or so years since women were treated as second class citizens not allowed to speak their mind, the old testament advocates stoning for women....we've come a long way in the last century or so, thanks to education. We have to believe that the ordinary muslim will eventually get there regardless of indoctrination.
We have headlines in our local rag about a protest outside tesco..not one reporter has spoken to the muslims who are currently working behind the tills, stacking shelves and selling Israeli produce in this particular store, who are wondering what the hell the muslim version of our local Christian jihadist Kevin Logan is doing outside.
What Israel is doing in Gaza is just plain wrong...what ISIS are doing is also plain wrong..both on humanitarian grounds NOT religious!
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Guinness, we have trod the path of the historical religious failings before.
We cannot change what went before. We can only lament that that was how it was......and hope that those failings can be a lesson to us. It seems like they never are.
And it isn't me who says that Islam is a peaceful and compassionate religion.
It is those devout Muslims who hide their faces, wear the long flowing robes lest weak men are tempted. So the weak men target white girls instead.
Baroness Warsi quit her government position all over her outrage at the situation in Gaza.....does this not strike you as a bit ironic when you consider the atrocities committed by ISIS? She gives them not a mention.....does that not pose the question in your mind 'why'?
As for Muslims speaking out against those taking over the towns and cities in Iraq.....they want the world to be one huge Muslim Caliphate.....and what ISIS is doing furthers that cause......so whichever media you follow, you will see very little Muslim dissent against what they are doing.
As to your last sentence.....you will get no argument from me on that score.
It is most definitely not about religion....but about power and the exertion of force to achieve it.