[Boeing Guy]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

Watching (all be it, on the news etc) our lads/lasses (inc relatives & friends) fighting an dying, in a war we should never have been involved in, just leaves a sour/bitter taste in my mouth and I will never support their artifice.

If you bothered to research, you would see the beginings of Bin Laden's animosity towards the west, dates back yo the Iraq Invasion Of Kuwait in 1990 and the Saudi Royal family prefering American and Allied support rather than Bin Laden's Mujahideen. This resulted in Bin Laden, eventually, taking refuge in Afghanistan and issuing a Fatwa in 1998 quote:

The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies—civilians and military—is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque [in Jerusalem] and the holy mosque [in Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, 'and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,' and 'fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah'

The turning point was the attacks on 9/11(and please don't try to explain them as a false flag or otherwise, you will lose that arguement), this resulted in combat operations in Afghanistan and later Iraq

To me, it seems reasonable to say that those fighters who are fighting with rusty (antiquated) weapons and minimal protection are braver than the average British soldier and their multi million pound weapons arsenal

SO how do you explain how the Afghan Mujahideen managing to give the Soviet Red Army a bloody nose during the 1980's?

Anyhow,it is fair that our military be treated with a modicum of respect,so i won't comment any further on this thread after this....
Modicum.......to me ANYONE who serves in our's or our allies armed forces, derserves our upmost respect.
.....Take a life to save a life? I don't buy it,i'd sooner have my relatives & friends around me, is that too much to ask?.
I am sure most if not all of our armed forces would rather be at home with their families.

Your (more than) entitled to have your "tuppence worth" but,with all due respect, the old "your comment is worthless" unless you've "been there & done","Until you've walked a mile in these lads shoes" & "been where they've been" is wearing a bit on the thin side.

People like Dave have been PROTECTING YOUR RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH for many many years, your arguements and for that matter comments are wearing very very thin.