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Originally Posted by Guinness
Given a clear set of parameters…incurable, terminally ill and 6 months to live, and the ruling of a high court judge…people ask for the right to die, painlessly, with dignity at a time of their choosing….
The nuggets in parliament get it wrong! Why am I not surprised?
Arguing against :-
a) The God botherers with their intransient, illogical belief in a mythical all seeing, all powerful entity, argue that it’s a sin despite the fact that their God allows child abuse, war, famine, plague etc..etc… to run rampant
b) The muppets that claim that some people may kill off their parents for the money, conveniently forgetting that the Mental Capacity Act makes provision to prevent this
c) Doom mongers who claim it’s the thin end of the wedge and before long we will be killing off anyone over 60
Arguing for :-
a) People in excruciating pain
b) People who do not want to face the excruciating pain that is about to befall them
c) People who want their loved ones to remember them the way they are now and not as a shadow of their former self
Those who argue against have zero experience of a loved one begging and praying to this alleged ‘benign’ entity to take them because they’ve had enough, to watch them soil themselves and shamedly apologise for it…to watch them drift in and out of consciousness, pain then no pain….
It’s ok though if you have a few quid, you can sod off to Switzerland….the peasants have to commit suicide, get your loved one to buy some pills, you’re ok because it’s not illegal to commit suicide but your loved one faces jail because it’s illegal to help someone to do it???
Personally I don’t know what I would do, but I’m damn sure I would like the choice
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You use derogatory terms for those who argue against ending life on compassionate grounds. This has the effect of negating your views somewhat.
I know there are supposed to be safeguards against the rules being corrupted, but do you trust those in authority not to be corrupted.
I worked in women's health for many years and when I first started, termination of a pregnancy was not easy for a woman to access, but when I left the NHS, it was termination on demand.....yes, the supposed safeguards of Two Doctors etcetera was still in place, but this was no barr to women getting termination of pregnancy(and some women were seen more than once).
I have seen people dying, I have seen people given life limiting diagnoses, but still I am not sure that legislation to end life is the way forward.
Shouldn't we be caring for the dying in a better way?
Shouldn't the government support the hospice movement in a better, more structured way?
i would not like the medical profession to be in the situation of euthanising people. It is a very short step to taking the old and infirm out of the population because they are no longer seen to be useful.
Where people have helped someone to die(none medical personnel that is), where there has been strong evidence that this was what the deceased wished, have any of those helpers been prosecuted, jailed or given some kind of criminal record?
I am only asking because I don't know.
Do you really want a Harold Shipman making decisions on who should be dispatched from life?
This is a subject which polarises opinion because it is very emotive.
My stance is not one of inexperience either.....my father died of lung cancer, my mother was given the diagnosis of cancer so 13 years ago.....had she taken the road of assisted dying (fearing that she would be in constant pain)she would not be here now....but she is here, and although the diagnosis changed her life....it was not the end of her life.