[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Retlaw...in the main you are right.
December 25th is a symbolic date for the birthday of Christ...no-one alive really knows the true date of his birth....and this date is close to the Festival of Samhain which the pagans celebrated...it was felt that the pagans would take much more kindly to religion which had a festical close to one of the pagan celebrations...and they would convert to the Christian faith...and they did.

What you choose to believe is your choice....and in reality Christmas is not very much about religion, it is much more about commerce.
You will even see Muslim parents out and about buying gifts for their children to celebrate a festival to which they have little allegiance(they do believe in Jesus, but only as a minor player in the religious pantomime...a bit along the lines of the inn keeper).

Relatives are what come with your lady.....or face ache as you call her......you must have some too...do you feel the same disregard for those on your side as well?

As I said, a carmudgeonly tinge to the post.

I had relatives on my side my parents and two sisters all my other relatives died along time ago, or I never knew them. once I left home I never celebrated xmas until it was forced on me by face ache, as for sending xmas cards thats her business, if any one is daft enough to send me one it goes in the recycle with out being opened, so I don't know who the silly beggar is, even when at work on that day, I did not join in with the others in their festivities, but kept to myself as for food I took sandwiches. I may be curmudgeonly, but logic tells me its all a waste of time, its only for the children, the money grabbers, and the stupid god botherers. I have no relatives I don't have any left, as for friends I don't have any or want any, although I know many people, they are what you would call aquaintances, If I'm out, and spot any of the people who I used to work with, I try my best to avoid them.