I also have been to many meetings when younger and have spent most of my working life helping people at work also. also what Margaret P has just stated is perfectly correct in my experience, also i am at the stage of life where in the main i have better things to do, But i certainly refuse to shut me gob, to humour you Neil. if i agree with summat like yer tree in the park i will say so and i did, these trees i disagree strongly i will also say so, its called my opinion,

