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Old 24-10-2017, 07:03   #85
Margaret Pilkington
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Re: What is the alternative?

I take your point, but that is not the issue that I was posting about.
If someone has a NI number then they can work legally here.(and access services for which they have paid nothing...an which those of us who have contributed over the years, are paying for).
Whether they DO work, pay taxes and NI contributions is a whole other story...and maybe the substance for another thread.
If they do not have an NI number then they cannot work legally...they will pay nothing in income tax or contribute to the NHS.

This is really not the issue that I was posting about. The issue that I was posting about was the fact that someone will come here from another country and avail themselves of NHS care and treatment.
I have seen it first hand when I was working.
Elderly(and some not so elderly) come to stay with family for a holiday, and while here get surgery or treatment for conditions that, in their home country, they would have to pay for.

A couple of years ago a woman who was expecting a multiple birth flew here, had her babies(which were premature and were in neonatal intensive care for quite a while) racked up care that cost us nearly half a million quid(well, no I exaggerate, it was £400,000) and no efforts were made to get that money.

That is a large part of the issue. There is no one, in many of the NHS hospitals, charged with the responsibility of seeking out those who should be paying...and even less effort is expended in making sure that they do.

Now I have quoted just one incident. How many nurses would that one patients care have paid for?

The issue of uncontrolled immigration on ALL public services and the infrastructure of society was not considered when Tony Blair supported multiculturalism...the long term consequences of immigration was not were thought out...and now we pay.

It has little effect on the elite...other than the fact that they can employ cheap cleaners, and other domestic staff.
They will not be inconvenienced by crowded NHS facilities, a wait for surgery, a wait to see a GP....no, that is you and me Son and the many who are taken for mugs by politicians.
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