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Originally Posted by accybeme
While I agree with most of your post, I do not believe parliament will let us crash out with no deal, to me that only leaves two options withdraw article 50 or a 2nd referendum, the trouble has always been that while the majority of (us the people) wanted to leave the EU, the majority of MP’s wanted the UK to remain in EU
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The situation is that over the years what was a trading arrangement morphed into a political entity....this happened without our permission.
There were times when we should have been consulted and weren't....because back then the leaders were savvy enough to know we would not buy it.
When I voted to leave, I made sure that I had read as much as possible about the EU and the consequences of leaving....and not just from the pap that the popular media would have us believe.
I made an
informed choice...because that is how I do things.
I certainly did not vote for a Hokey Cokey, half in half out deal.
We were promised that No deal was preferable to a bad deal....and what is currently on the table is as bad a deal as it can get....so we should NOT be taking it up.
Parliament won't vote this through in its current format....but then that leaves a no deal scenario....nowhere was it said that if we did not like the offer we would revoke article 50.....because if that is done then we do not leave and the illusion of democracy....letting the people choose, is trashed.
Equally sending us out to vote again, means democracy is trashed to because it undermines the voting process.
Are we going to get into a situation where, at a General Election, we don't agree with the result so we can have another go....and another until we get the result that we like??
That is NOT democracy.
If, right at the very beginning, it had been pointed out to the negotiators(and that's a laugh in itself) that these were the terms we wanted to leave on.....and told them that was it....if they could not agree then we would leave without a deal, what do you think might have happened?
This is Brinkmanship...plain and simple....a Mexican stand off....see who blinks first.
It is in the interests of the EU to secure a deal too....because without contributions from the UK they are stuffed....because I cannot see Germany and France wanting to make up the deficit....and the PIGS countries can't make up the deficit because the EU has screwed them....which is exactly what they will do to us if we do not get out.