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WillowTheWhisp · 23-03-2005, 00:56

Just getting back to the subject of gypsies/travellers. All this waffle about them being an ethnic minority is a load of twaddle. We're not talking about real gypsies here. These are not people of a minority ethnic group. They are the same ethnic group as many others who do not behave in the same way and whose human rights are being abused.

They are simply people who prefer to live in caravans rather than houses or prefer not to stay in one location permanently. Ok, I have no problem with that. Good luck to them. BUT what I do feel I have a right to complain about is the mess left behind. If I put my caravan in a public place and then left rotting rubbish outside of it I would expect to be arrested and the caravan towed away.

If we were on a campsite and made too much noise the other campers would be justified in complaining and we'd probably be asked to behave or depart.

We have our caravan in a farmer's field near Carnforth but when we wanted to do something as simple as erect a wind generator we asked permission of the land owner. And we pay for the privilege of keeping our caravan there. They should be subject to the same sort of thing. What about the rights of the owners of the land they move onto and stake a claim on? What about the original inhabitants of the villages whose lives they make a misery? Not to mention the fall in property values.

All we're talking about here is equality. Why should any acts have to be repealed? What about the human rights of the rest of us who don't go around breaking the law?

23-03-2005, 00:56	#57
WillowTheWhisp Resident Waffler Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Accrington, Hyndburn Posts: 18,142 Blog Entries: 14 Liked: 14 times Rep Power: 1062	Re: Gypsies/travellers Just getting back to the subject of gypsies/travellers. All this waffle about them being an ethnic minority is a load of twaddle. We're not talking about real gypsies here. These are not people of a minority ethnic group. They are the same ethnic group as many others who do not behave in the same way and whose human rights are being abused. They are simply people who prefer to live in caravans rather than houses or prefer not to stay in one location permanently. Ok, I have no problem with that. Good luck to them. BUT what I do feel I have a right to complain about is the mess left behind. If I put my caravan in a public place and then left rotting rubbish outside of it I would expect to be arrested and the caravan towed away. If we were on a campsite and made too much noise the other campers would be justified in complaining and we'd probably be asked to behave or depart. We have our caravan in a farmer's field near Carnforth but when we wanted to do something as simple as erect a wind generator we asked permission of the land owner. And we pay for the privilege of keeping our caravan there. They should be subject to the same sort of thing. What about the rights of the owners of the land they move onto and stake a claim on? What about the original inhabitants of the villages whose lives they make a misery? Not to mention the fall in property values. All we're talking about here is equality. Why should any acts have to be repealed? What about the human rights of the rest of us who don't go around breaking the law? __________________ Last edited by WillowTheWhisp; 23-03-2005 at 00:59.