[cashman]

respect and discipline is to me in the main inherited,slinky i think you did a great job,just by sticking to your guns. when i was young if i did owt like your lad i was grounded,all my mates parents did similar.for me not enough parents now do similar unfortunately.my kids weren,t angels,but they new the rules,an thats what lifes all about really.also i would never go home @ tell me mam @dad if i'd (been caned at school,or clipped round the lughole with a bobby)cos i would get another clout at home.