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[QUOTE=Graham Jones


PENSIONERS HAVE A MINIMUM INCOME GUARANTEE,THE ONES YOU SLAG OFF FOR NOT SAVING ENOUGH DURING THEIR WORKING LIFE AND ARE RELIANT ON THOSE EXTRA ALOWANCES THE TORIES NEVER GAVE WHILST PEGGING RISES TO BELOW INFLATION.

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Where did I "slag off" anyone? If you read it properly you'll realise the point I was trying to make was that none of the pensioners get a decent amount...AND... that even those who can manage to save a few extra quid by doing without over the years(something that was very much encouraged when the older generation was growing up) would get a double whammy by getting even less!

If the state pension was paid at a reasonable level and there was no means testing to get it, everyone would get a fair deal. No one deserves the indignity of being means tested just to get their pension.

It's not a "free lunch". Those who can have paid for it already through their tax and NI contributions and those who can't I am happy to assist with my own.

PS: Not all anti-Blairites are Tory. You ass.u.me too much!