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pendy · 27-04-2005, 20:32

I'm not sure if Councillor Jones is aware of this, but he is in a difficult position when it comes to the laws of libel to say that there is an OFFICIAL BNP site where, if his name is published, his home could be firebombed. There is also the fact that, since he appears on a site naming extreme left-wing people, and given that he is a councillor - ergo his name and address have to be available to the electorate - he is being just the tiniest bit over-dramatic here. Having spent a year or so living with a man who was on an IRA hitlist - simply because he was a British diplomat at consular level (the IRA go through the current consular lists, easily available, and target at random - but they always seem to let 5 know) I don't feel the same degree of drama.

Let us be clear about this: GJ has his opinion. Tealeaf has his opinion. Vorlon has his (I think! - I am assuming gender here!) opinion. I have mine. All are valid. No-one is right, no-one is wrong. To say "This is my opinion. Therefore I am right and you are wrong" is not socialism, not conservatism, it is simply and solely fascism. Fascism is not the prerogative of the right wing. It exists whenever and wherever a sector of the population say that what they believe is right, anything else is wrong. It is a short step to saying "It is wrong and therefore it should be punished". Then follows: If you do not say what I believe, then you are wrong and should be silenced.

Heinrich Heine said of Hitler's beloved Third Reich in its early days, when contrary thought was being stamped out -

"If you begin by burning books, you will end by burning people".

THIS SITE IS FOR EVERYONE, REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL, SOCIAL OR RELIGIOUS BELIEF. And yes, on this occasion, I am shouting!

So, Councillor Jones, you are entitled to whatever views you choose to subscribe to, but do not take the moral high ground with the rest of us who do not necessarily wholeheartedly follow you.

27-04-2005, 20:32	#17
pendy Resting in peace Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London/Oswaldtwistle Posts: 1,123 Liked: 0 times Rep Power: 910	Re: Councillor Jones is Famous!!!!! I'm not sure if Councillor Jones is aware of this, but he is in a difficult position when it comes to the laws of libel to say that there is an OFFICIAL BNP site where, if his name is published, his home could be firebombed. There is also the fact that, since he appears on a site naming extreme left-wing people, and given that he is a councillor - ergo his name and address have to be available to the electorate - he is being just the tiniest bit over-dramatic here. Having spent a year or so living with a man who was on an IRA hitlist - simply because he was a British diplomat at consular level (the IRA go through the current consular lists, easily available, and target at random - but they always seem to let 5 know) I don't feel the same degree of drama. Let us be clear about this: GJ has his opinion. Tealeaf has his opinion. Vorlon has his (I think! - I am assuming gender here!) opinion. I have mine. All are valid. No-one is right, no-one is wrong. To say "This is my opinion. Therefore I am right and you are wrong" is not socialism, not conservatism, it is simply and solely fascism. Fascism is not the prerogative of the right wing. It exists whenever and wherever a sector of the population say that what they believe is right, anything else is wrong. It is a short step to saying "It is wrong and therefore it should be punished". Then follows: If you do not say what I believe, then you are wrong and should be silenced. Heinrich Heine said of Hitler's beloved Third Reich in its early days, when contrary thought was being stamped out - "If you begin by burning books, you will end by burning people". THIS SITE IS FOR EVERYONE, REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL, SOCIAL OR RELIGIOUS BELIEF. And yes, on this occasion, I am shouting! So, Councillor Jones, you are entitled to whatever views you choose to subscribe to, but do not take the moral high ground with the rest of us who do not necessarily wholeheartedly follow you.