[jambutty]

A good start pixie but did you not have a response to the rest of my argument? Could you not bring yourself to admit that you have never remonstrated with a driver about the filth coming out of the back of his/her vehicle but you are quite prepared to condemn a smoker?

OK! So you didn’t actually say that you were happy to breathe in killer exhaust fumes but you object to second hand smoke yet do not object to first hand exhaust fumes so if you don’t object you must approve by default.

It may be dredging up an old response but it is no older than the anti-smoking campaign with what it costs the NHS etc.

Your fresh air that you claim to breathe is not as fresh as you think. It is polluted by exhaust fumes and industry far more than by tobacco smoke. The only reason that you don’t notice it is because it is there all the time and you have got used to it. You can get used to working in a cess pit after a while and not smell the contents.

Take down this fact. The prevalence of asthma in the young is increasing and has been for the last twenty years. By a strange coincidence the motor vehicle has also proliferated in that time and the incidence of smoking has gone DOWN.

Just think as you walk down the road with a toddler by your side. His/her head is barely 3 feet above the ground, which is inches above where the vehicles spew out their poison. Kids in pushchairs are even more prone. Those poor souls are closer to the ground and thus just about get the full force of an exhaust straight into their faces and lungs.

Go for smokers by all means but go for a far worse killer the internal combustion engine as well or risk being labelled an out and out hypocrite. If you don’t fancy your chances tackling a driver about his air pollution then you have no just right to go after tobacco smokers.

Originally Posted by chav1

them jockys would sure look strange galloping around a race track with no horses

and could you please explain how the hell i am supposed to go badger baiting without a badger to bait

ps:

most fishermen throw the fish back as it is now the policy to do so at registered places to fish but i have to admit the fish's screams of pain when you remove the hook can send chills down your spine

anyway i cant stop and chat ive got a dancing bear to train up for my kids birthday party

There is nothing strange about athletics where human beings gallop (race) around a racetrack. chav1. At least they do so on their own two feet and not on the back of an animal driving it on with the occasional, or even continual, swipe with a whip. A horse is a flight animal rather than a fight animal and humans are exploiting this character to force the horse to run as fast as it can in order to win a race. A lion is a fight animal so let’s see the human exploit that character and fight the lion.

Yes I have seen how a well run abattoir kills animals staggeringman and no I don’t eat burgers and when my kids were at home (the youngest is 32 now) they didn’t get burgers either unless we made them ourselves from a cut of meat. We didn’t eat processed meat other than corned beef.