[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by fireman

. I already said that the reference to being 5mph over the limit was a quip but it seems to be praying on your mind. Yes people do travel at way over the limit on motorways and, as Neil said it would change the attitude of drivers if they had had to scrape people fromunder a wagon wheel arch or sweep the remains of someones beloved child into a bag and rinse the rest down the guttering. I don't want to be argumentative I was just giving a piont of view and already admitted to a small joke at Pilkybuses' expence I have made my piont and really do not want to continue to bring back some dire memories of my experiences. Thankyou.

OK, "quip" accepted, perhaps if you'd included a "lol" in the original post or a smiley image then it wouldn't have appeared the way it did when I read it. You gave the impression that you do not regard Busman as a safe driver and I naturally felt defensive about that. He doesn't only drive a car but also buses and coaches and sees many accidents caused by people behaving foolishly. He may not have had the personal experience of having to remove injured or deceased persons from their vehicles as you probably have but I assure you that he isn't an irrisponsible idiot when he gets behind a wheel. He was simply trying to point out what he considered to be a design "fault" with the car we have in that the switch is such an obscure thing when ideally it should be something more obvious and apparant. I do know where and what it is but have to admit that without a reminder from time to time I could quite easily forget.

I was trying to point out that it isn't the driver (whether he has read the manual or not) who is the one who is ever going to need to use that switch because he can reach the other things that knock the CC off. It's the passenger who can only reach that switch and passengers do not read manuals. Would you think of pointing it out to anyone in your passenger seat? Maybe we would now, having thiught about it, but I have to admit it had never crossed my mind before to say "Oh, and by the way this is the CC release switch if I have a heart attack while we're going down the motorway" We remarked this morning that some people who do not drive aren't even aware of the existence of such a thing as cruise control.