[cashman]

sorry for wandering off thread a little,but this reminds me of the con club in the late 60s,the rule was you had to wear a tie to the monday dance,at the time dave clark shirts were all the rage, these had very high collars and a tie was not suitable- long story cut short= made me wear a tie was in about 20 mins and was picked on by some clown, needless to say that was the only fight all night!