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Originally Posted by park381
Originally Posted by Graham Jones
Probably! Obviously the circumstances are different in teh south and three storey build is becoming common, even 4 storey with underground garage. High density housing may pass in London, but it will fail in Hyndburn in my view. Modern slums for modern people! People aspire to space, green spaces and a sense of community.
Graham, in the south you say, look no further than Huncoat. The 3/4 storey houses apartment blocks are all ways of complying with Prescotts directive, more houses, living space per acre and cheaper.
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I see your point and my intention when I said demolish one slum for a new one I was thinking of not only the density but location which is as important. Of course in London or out of the rundown areas here, modern well built housing of three and four storey can be highly attractive. I saw some built in Bolton by one company and they were stunning new build.
The photo of housing in Huncoat, they are council flats, not houses which are in short supply and of course Huncoat is a desirable place. Currently 68 families are on the waiting list for Within Grove alone and 3,300 people are on the waiting list for Council Houses across Hyndburn. I asked this week.
The ones at Ossy I think they are flats too, though I can't tell. Probably a better example of 3 storey high density build being desirable are some in the middle of Sefton Farm. I get asked about flats, sheltered housing a lot and it presents one of the biggest shortages in the Borough.
I think people who travel through a poor dense area feel oppressed by it, not liberated [or inspired], and that affects their purchasing and accordingly the market price, and probably more significant the long term perceptions about a place.
Slightly digressing on house design; Britcliffe is right in one respect, acres of clone like Council Housing doesn't paint a good picture of Hyndburn but he is wrong in failing to understand that desirable estates like Fern Gore are less a blight than the private sector cramming in X nos on a small site built out of cheapo materials without design or thought and as clone like as council housing. Where Council housing meant 3 proper bedrooms, or even 4, and private means 1 normal, one small and a 3rd the size of cupbaord. And how many modern brick housing, less than 20 year old, suffers from shaling, damp, poor guttering, rotten windows, cracked flags? There are lots of issues to consider so we don't make the mistakes of the past.
At the end of the day the market tells us MOST people like to live near green fields or open space and in a larger house with a larger garden, with a garage, in general. Thats why the houses that tick those boxes sell at the opposite end of the scale to those that don't. Obviously a crude analysis but true none the less.