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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
I'll give you one thing, Stanaccy, at least you're honest about it. This makes a refreshing change from the vast majority of Euro-enthusiasts who tell us that of course the EU poses no danger to our independence, we will remain a sovereign state and all the other bull that they regularly peddle.
However, I totally and utterly reject your vision of a future as one state "ruled from the mainland." To surrender our democracy to a vast, remote, unaccountable body like this would be a disaster for our country.
I also reject your view that only fringe figures on the old far left and right refuse to accept the inevitable (by the "inevitable" I am assuming you mean the "inevitability" of a European Superstate). I think you will find that very large numbers of people in this country refuse to accept the dominance of the EU as inevitable and Blair's sell-out may have increased their awareness of the dangers that lie ahead!
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I keep trying to say this but everyone either refuses to listen or just doesn't want to. The loss of our rebate and the "sell out" as you keep calling it was signed away by John Major in Maastricht in Novemer (I believe) 1993.
This was the one treaty since the Treaty of Rome in 1960 that sealed the way forward for Europe. Everything since then has been a bit part. There will always be arguments over annual budgets, the CAP (I know the French will fight tooth and nail for it but I don't see any of our farmers complaining about it.) and one of the main problems as with any bureaucratic organisation is corruption. Hopefully the corruption will be cut with the new security measures coming into place next April (again I think).
As for surrendering our democracy, wrong phrase I think, just moving our seat of government. I also believe we will be a federal state with only major decisions made on the mainland (similar to the US model).
Pity no politician from any persuasion has entered into this one I feel it would be a good forum for them to put their view across.
