[WillowTheWhisp]

I see what you're saying Ber but when I expressed objections to these changes as you call them I was accused of beating up my children and not treating them with respect. I hasten to add that I don't beat them, nor does anyone else but I do discipline them and I feel this is where we are going wrong. Schools are very limited in what they can do to discipline children. We may object to the laws but we cannot break them and there are plenty of people who approve of them and who would gladly see us disciplinarians punished rather than young hooligans.