[staggeringman]

guess thats the downfall of being behind a wheel katex,i wasnt getting at you i was asking you?i have said that lancashire must be one of the best scenery places in the country.:engsmil: i am not a motorway driver as you miss too much!but you will have to use them to get from a-b.i go out when i can to get lost!havent achieved it yet after going down roads that havent been used in years ,opening farm gates .....etc