[Madhatter]

I do agree that there should be more effort made to provide free stuff for kids, but then would samf use it cos you cant drink vodka in a youth club.
tHere, here are those that just hang out on the street or at the back of flats in warm porches and just chat and drink, but then as chav said there are those that will cause trouble for entertainment and would never be interested no matter what.
The other problem with starting projects such as estate youthg clubsis that after a year the kids get bored with it, it becomes uncool, unused and closes due to lack of funding, because the council wont fund a youth club noone attends. I've seen this happen in coventry.

We've tried youth shelters on the parks here to try to get youths off the street corners and they do work to a certain extent in the summer mainly. they work because they can still smoke and drink, theres very little adult interferance like a youth club has. The only thing they moan about is the sides aren't blocked in, it just has railings so its windy and wet, whereas our porch is blocked on three sides, has a light and is heated.
think our days of fun are long gone MP and chav, no imagination now days or it's just not cool enough.