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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
Do you actually live in the real world. Cyfr? Do you ever go into any Con Clubs? I do, not for political reasons, but because you can drink cheap beer in a chav-free zone. The Tories I speak to are by and large a pretty right-wing bunch. They've voted for Cameron, not because they have much belief in him but because they reckon he's the best chance they've got of getting into power and they'd rather have a middle-of-the-road Tory government than none at all.
I'll start treating you like a rational adult when you eventually come down from that ivory tower you're living in.
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And to think that I was quite enjoying this little discussion/debate/whatever. Then all of a sudden ad hominem attacks begin to surface symbolising a weakness in attack strategy. Rather than turn this into some flame on "The Little Guy", why don't you formulate an intelligent and reasoned argument. I don't agree entirely with Cyfr's points, but there's no need to blatently insult him. This may be news to you, but if you go to a conservative club, you're going to find conservatives. And only the most hard core conservatives will go out of their way to go to said clubs. They're obviously going to be hardcore right-wingers. Or at least a fair few. In the same way that when I go to labour clubs I find that quite a few of the people there willing to indoctrinate me into the ways of Unions and Workers' rights. This doesn't mean that every person who votes labour believes that Unions should be free to roam the earth as Gods. As for this Tory MP that you might have met sometime in the... was is 80's? 90's? Anyway... you met him and you think... well you're pretty sure now you think about it... that he probably said something about conserving for oneself... or whatever. Nice bit of anecdotal evidence that proves...???
P.S. Next time you use complex phrases like "Ivory Tower" in your efforts to patronise people, at least get them in the right context.