But if you went into a Con Club, you could actually talk to real, live Tory activists and...oh sod it. OK, Cyfr, you win, I "give in" (to use your phrase - you make it sound like an arm wrestling contest!).
I hereby declare that Cyfr is the winner of this debate. By the use of carefully reasoned arguments, he has indisputably proved that the majority of members in today's modern Conservative party are open-minded, idealistic individuals who have an inclusive approach to minorities and a deep concern with social justice for all members of society.
Happy now? Good. Right, I'm off to the pub to celebrate Father's Day with my kids.
