[maccawozzagod]

Ossyclogger, I don't think there is any need for the sarcasm you seem to display on occasions when all we want to do is drive things on.

The fundamental problem is the lack of communication, the next problem is the lack of interest in other peoples projects for example red and white fortnight. The first problem you now appear to want to take steps to improve and that is a good thing. The second problem may be a case of us and them I dont know.

I don't have time to dedicate to regular 'commitee' work or else I would have nominated myself a long time ago. The Ultras have stated many times that we do not want to hinder or knock the OSC but some times the opportunity has to be taken or else you will just meander along without us knowing anything that happens.

The Ultras have a website where we discuss whatever needs to be done now or later. There is a consensus that we should keep things to ourselves, but I will always post anything that I am involved with on here because this is where it will get most traffic. The more people know about something the more it is likely to be a success.

Is there room for more than one OSC? Of course there is. The more clubs there are the better. York have about four official clubs. Its not about competing, its not about we raised more than them, its not about we are better than them. Its about whats best for the club and how best can we improve things.

Lets stop knocking each other and being sarcastic and lets back each other.

If we have an idea we will try to expand it as soon as possible and link it with a recruitment drive (not for the Ultras, but for new fans). The one thing I admire the OSC for is that when they have an idea that they approve they do have people who are dedicated and will traipse around the town seeing whoever.

We will never again see the two factions merged as we have different beliefs on how best to support our club, but we should be able to work together on the same ideas from time to time and that would be beneficial to both our parties.

Many people don't like the idea of the OSC because they haven't the time or energy for officialdom, they like the idea of the freelancing Ultras where they could do as much or as little as they want when they want and be kept in the loop. The downside to our group is that they assume they are too old to be with us, or they don't like the name, or because they dont sing they are not an Ultra. An unofficial proper supporters club would be the logical crossover.