[jambutty]

Obviously at the time there was intelligence suggesting otherwise. You'd be the first person to jump up and say something if they didn't act when they had recieved intelligence.

The intelligence was obviously flawed Cyfr because so far no one has been charged and taken to court. Both incidents were wolf cries.

Strange coincidence? Erm, the police don't listen to orders from our Government. You seem to be suggesting that really nothing was going to happen at all and that they're doing this to get ID cards passed, do you know how sillly that sounds?

Can I remind you that we do not live in a police state yet! The police, MI5 and MI6 are responsible to Parliament and where national security is concerned and public disruption called for the go ahead comes from the government. Do you now realise how stupid your assertion that the police don’t listen to orders from the Government sounds?

Strange how they 'just happened to have clear plastic bags to hand for this purpose'
WHAT? Just think about what you're saying, first of all how hard is it to aquire plasic bags if you don't already have them?
Second, do you not think they plan things like this in advance? They knew about the threat for a while, and im sure the airports have planned stuff like this since 9/11 at least.
Nothings been found because nobody said it was going to happen today, it could be tomorrow, it could be next week. They are there to stop copycat attacks.

You are making my case for me Cyfr. I’m quite sure that it would be easy to get hold of clear plastic bags, but during the morning when the alert first occurred? So they must have had them in stock already. Why? Oh! I see! A copycat was it. By definition copycat means that it has occurred before. Do tell when was the last time that hand luggage was suspect to the degree that it was banned from the plane cabin? You’re talking nonsense!

If you think that the terrorists don’t have more than half a brain cell between them then keep on sticking your head in the sand.

It transpires that the attack wasn’t imminent on the day but was just a POSSIBILITY during the next three days. Not even a PROBABILITY and obviously nowhere near a CERTAINTY.

We all want the security services to protect us from terrorist acts but where were they on 7/7? Where was the intel then?

As I said I have no doubt that something was in the wind but it was decided to over-react on the day to try and establish that the security services were on the ball and as a convenient extra to reinforce the need to curtail the public’s freedom and liberties and make a case for having ID cards accepted.

Time will tell if and when the arrested suspects end up in court on a terrorism charge.