[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by JohnW

Well, some of us already have joined in Willow. I have, and Garinda has, both of us 'non-believers' by the tone of our posts.

I was hoping for something more from people along the lines of what they do believe in rather than what they don't believe in but it seems we've either got Christians or people who just believe we die and that's the end of it - nowt, zilch, nothing. Surely there are some Accywebbers who believe we're decended from aliens or who ar pagans or something else? It would be interesting to hear some other specific beliefs.

You know what they say, If you talk to God you are praying, if God talks to you you're a crazy person!

That's probably why people keep a lot of it to themselves for fear of being thought nutcases.

We read stories in the Bible which, applied to to-day's world seem absolutely ridiculous. You know, Abraham takes his young son up the mountain to kill him because God told him to. He has him tied and bound and the arm with the knife is raised on high ready for the kill, when God stops him. I wonder how the kid felt about that. Did it change his idea that his father loved him do you think, deep down inside? If I took my son to the mountain today and tied him up, and had the knife raised and somebody saw it happen. Do you think they would accept that God was telling me to do all this? Would that make it OK? I don't think so, I'd be in the slammer in no time and quite rightly so. But we're supposed to read that in the Bible and think it's a great story and what a wonderful man Abraham was because he was willing to kill his son because God told him to do so............?

I think it's probably a feature of the times we live in as opposed to those times then. I don't believe God would ask anyone to do anything like that now. It was appropriate then to test the man's faith. He had a big job ahead of him.

There are many other stories which don't make any sense, far too numerous to list here, I'm sure you know as many, if not more than I do.

Well, they do all make sense to me so I'm not sure which you mean. Maybe like my old RE teacher you don't believe in miracles. I could never undestand how someone can be an RE teacher when they don't believe in something. Mind you these days it's not quite the same sybject it used to be.

Originally Posted by HopeRules

One last thought. If what I believe is true when we all die we will all face judgement the question being only what did you do with my son Jesus. Did you believe or not? Those not believing will entering into eternal torment by their own choice.

If it's true I'm safe, if this is just some grand brainwashing I'm under and we all rot or all good ones get in. I'm safe.

That's something I oftn say to people too.