[jambutty]

I don’t have a problem with a national ID card as such for those who cannot verify their identity by other means. Passport, driving license, National Insurance card and the like. It is having to pay for it twice that sticks in my craw and the fact that once introduced a future government can, and probably will, expand the information contained on them or the data base that the card will be checked against. With CCTV cameras sprouting like spring flowers and now black boxes in cars, telephone calls and emails being monitored we are galloping towards an Orwellian society with every increasing speed.

It is our taxes that will pay for the implementation Neil and then it has been suggested that we will then have to pay £30 over the cost of a biometric passport.

We may have a nuclear deterrent Neil but we will not be able to launch a missile without first getting the USA’s permission and even then we will need the launch codes from them. What use is that? If someone chucked a nuke at the UK, do you think that the yanks will allows us to chuck one back? The only time that we will be able to use our nuclear deterrent is if America is ever seriously threatened or attacked.

Your attitude would have us all back in medieval times pretty rapidly. Do you wait until you have absolutely nothing in the house to eat before buying more Neil?

We trade with many countries outside the EU SPUGGIE J but we are not told by them what laws we should have. We didn’t used to need the EU, our politicians did and have put us into a position where we now do need the EU.