[WillowTheWhisp]

No I wouldn't stand with her because I don't think it's a good place for me to stand with her either.

You don't know me and you don't know my own health problems at present that would actually make it very difficult for me to be able to do that anyway, so please don't make wild assumptions and accusations.

The representative I spoke to today from your church also didn't think it was a good idea to ask her to stand alone on street corners in the dark.

My daughter couldn't tell them anything herself when they phoned up because like most 12 year olds on a schoolnight she had already gone to bed. She spoke to someone the following day.

If they can't pick her up from home then fair enough - but they shouldn't offer to pick her up from a dark deserted street corner so far from home. THAT was, and still is, my point. As Garinda had suggested I wouldn't object if they picked several children up from here rather than have other kids waiting around various assorted places outside in the dark too. I just can't get my head round anybody thinking this is an OK thing to do. Perhaps other parents don't object to their children being picked up on street corners - but perhaps they aren't even aware.

What do you mean IF I love my daughter? How dare you imply that I don't. Isn't the fact that I don't let her stand around alone on dark street corners an indication that I take her safety seriously?

I am still waiting to hear from the Youth Pastor.

I'm also not impressed by my daughter being blamed for Neil's opinion of the Hope Centre when all she did was choose not to go last Friday and do something else instead. I have only met Neil a couple of times and those being AccyWeb connected. If you care to look back, when he posted his opinions of the Hope Centre I actually said that I had been there and although it's not my own personal cup of tea (I'm just not into all that loud sort of stuff) I saw no reason to object to my daughters going there to the youth club if and when they want to. I have never said anything about objecting to the way the youth club is run. My only crime here is to care about the safety of my children.

I'm totally baffled as to how this thread which I started as the query of a caring mother has now turned into an accusation of my not loving me daughter.