bet you thought id given up didn't you! lol
well i happened upon this article yesterday thought it might help illustrate my point a little.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,3...020296,00.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007020341,00.html
and this time i've linked the articles to avoid any niggles about me pasting them!