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Old 16-01-2007, 20:01   #98
Billcat
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Re: a lesson to the british prison system!

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Originally Posted by jedimaster View Post
i fail to see what your pint is here as there is nothing to believe or disbelieve as i have only put forward my opinion!
and used various snippets of information, however gathered to illustrate that opinion after all that is how the majority of the western world's politics operates. including the grand us of a so maybe you need to look a little closer to home before trashing someones opinion on atheir home country thousands of miles away from your own!
i fail to see the damage
and to be frank i couldn't give a rats a...
Frankly, that much has been obvious for a while! You got caught doing wrong and you are totally unconcerned. Choosing not to give a rats ass exhibits the same attitude towards the property of others as that exhibited by those folks you claim to be living "inside" in great luxury.

And you choose to employ yet another tactic of those who can't stand the heat when their argument is failing....trying to change the subject to divert attention. But, you chose very poorly in your attempt to divert. "Look a little closer to home," indeed! Pretty humorous, considering that you, jedimaster, started this string closer to my home than yours, by lauding the tactics of an American sheriff; one who has lost lawsuits that cost the taxpayers millions!

Actually, there plenty to believe or disbelieve. We're discussing housing and the humane treartment of humans. I believe that, whenever possible, all human beings deserve decent housing. For soldiers, prisoners, whomever, even plagiarists! You showed us some pitcures from HM Prisons and tried to convince everyone that they are luxurious. While they looked decent and clean, serviceable and basic, they sure don't appear anything close to what most folks would see as luxurious.

Let's all feel sorry for poor jedimaster. Getting his virtual knuckles rapped for doing wrong. Awwwww, poor lad! Okay, enough of that nonsense!

Frankly, at this point, jedimaster, I'm not sure what point you are attempting to make. Do you endorse the mistreatment of prisoners by that Arizona sheriff? Punishing those who are not yet convicted, against the great traditions of both the USA and the UK? Taxpayers shelling out for wrongful death suits? The recidivism rate noted by that sheriff, even if far higher than that in the UK? If the pictures from HM Prisons do not confirm with your concept of how prisoners should be housed, how would you "improve" the situation?

Here's a piece or two of advice for you, jedimaster - when you find yourself in a hole, it's a good idea to stop digging. When your horse is dead - dismount!
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