[WillowTheWhisp]

I have never in any of my posts stated that gay people should not be allowed to adopt. Neither has the Catholic church ever made such a sweeping statement. What they did, and what I see no reason for anyone objecting to, was to pass gay couples on to other agencies rather than deal with the adoption themselves. Much the same as when you go to a tradesman and ask for a specific type of work which he doesn't do and he says he knows a man who does.

However, that is an entirely different subject and there's already a thread so no need to drag it into this one.

The subject here is the parents in this particular documentary who seem to regard having children as producing someone to look after them in their old age as a form of duty. The children are being denied their childhood and having far more responsibility heaped upon them than they should have to deal with. A child of 8 attempting suicide because she can't cope should get the message across loud and clear that all is not well here.

If someone mistreats a dog they usually end up being banned from keeping dogs. If people mistreat a child and the child is taken into care because of the way they are treated by the parents then it often happens that if the mother has another baby, if nothing has changed in the home then the new baby is also taken into care to prevent him or her suffering as the previous child/children did.

For the sake of the children I do believe this is the best course of action. I believe these parents are selfish and don't seem to have any understanding of the responsibilities of parenthood. Or do we consider the welfare of dogs to be more important than the welfare of children?

I sincerely hope social services will keep an eye on this family and that the welfare of the children will be top priority. And I still think these parents should cease to reproduce.