[WillowTheWhisp]

It's this particular family I'm talking about who shouldn't have children not blind people in general - as you say Gayle there are many blind parents who love and care for their children and there's no earthly reason for them not to have children. There are deaf parents who have hearing children and those children may not be able to speak to their own parents or at least not be understood by them but they can still learn to speak from other people. No reason for deaf people not to have children. No need for people who cannot walk not to have children.

Children can be and often are a great help to parents by being able to see something a parent can't see or hear something a parent can't hear or reach something that a parent in a wheelchair cannot reach but that is totally different to this family where the children are under such an awful strain and have total responsibility for their younger siblings. They must worry about what's happening to them when they aren't there.

It's been mentioned earlier that some children have been taken into care for the most illogical reasons like those wild accusations of Satanic cults, or indeed the couple whose IQ was below average but the father had a full time job and the children were always well cared for, loved, clean and well-fed and making the normal progress expected of any child. Yet these children who in my opinion are being abused are still with the parents who apparently plan to go on producing more. For the sake of the children I just can't believe that it's right for them to do so.

It must see heartbreaking to couples who try and fail to have children to see others mistreated.

There are many children who act as carers too but whose parents still love them and care about them too so it's responsibility but in a mutually caring environment. Even so those children get respite help.