[Gayle]

Yes, but you can't highlight all injustices in one sweeping statement like that.

For instance, blind people in the UK get a raw deal some times, are you saying that there should be no charity that supports the blind people. You can't lump all people with disability together because they're all different.

And by the same token, all the injustices in the world are different.

Hyndburn Women's Forum (and I personally don't like the name that much for a few reasons - it limits it to Hyndburn, it gives men a wrong impression of it and it doesn't really do much talking which is what a forum should be), however, it was formed before I joined, it was based in Hyndburn, by women, to get women talking to each other.

Its aims are to celebrate International Women's Day - this is not something that HWF started, it's a multinational event and the giveaway is in the title - it's got women in mind!

As I've said, many times, you can't be all things to all people at all times. But, you can put on as many different events and activities so that in the grand scheme of things there is something for everyone.

We don't preclude men from the meetings, we don't preclude them from the events but I don't see the harm in having the events in the first place and having them targetted towards women - that's just marketing when it all boils down to it. I wouldn't organise a wrestling match under the HWF banner because it wouldn't appeal to the audience.

And yes, your final point about cruelty, violence and injustice not being confined to any specific gender is of course correct, they do apply to everyone and we should be encouraged to fight it but we can't fight it all in the same way and at the same time by the same people - it dilutes the arguments and confuses the issue.