[grego]

Can you imagine the abuse the shop assistants would get if they intervened, I dont think there's anything wrong with a slap on the legs to bring them in line. Years ago when I worked in the chemist on the bus station a women belted her 5 yr old daughter round the head, real hard, that knocked me sick and in my opinion was abuse. I think its a fine line, though the kids these days do need discipline no doubt about that.