[garinda]

I have friends in Italy and France, both countries were children are brought up to regularly drink watered down wine with their dinner.

Alcohol isn't seen as something you need to get as much down your neck, just as soon as you're able, unlike here. They can't believe how much we drink here, the only goal being seemingly to get off our faces.

I've never seen the same drunken madness in those countries, as I see here at closing time. Perhaps they have the right idea.