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Old 04-05-2007, 21:26   #103
andrewb
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Re: Local Elections on Thursday.

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Cyfr, even for a tory that makes no sense, if we live in a liberal society then you should be voting, erm' liberal?

But 30 years ago is still fresh in my mind when I think of the problems one stubborn woman caused for masses of people, she closed steel works and mines that could have still been producing economically for several generations to come. I suppose you could say that some of these workers were compensated by their redundancies, but the torys knew that really that was only a loan that would be paid back because ordinary folk hadn't the resources to use such a windfall without somebody ripping them off, especially when the value of the houses they lived in, in the now defunct mining villages tumbled and drained their resources.

It's the fact that some of us remember 30 years ago that makes me hope we never see the same again.

Nowhere near as bad as the 1930's with starvation, but you try telling a young child that christmas isn't coming because his nice Uncle the Policeman is on overtime but his dad the miner has been arrested because he tried to keep his job!
Well as I understand it the mines were not economically viable as its much cheaper to import as its so expensive to extract it here, and miners were going on strike against their will! The workers wanted to get back to work but Unions had too much control. You have to agree that coming down on union power was a good thing for the country, surely? As unions are unelected yet had a enormous amount of power until Thatcher stood up to them.

However lets try not to get in to a debate on all her time in government as we've done it over and over on this forum.

I call it a Liberal Democracy because thats what most western nations are. It's basically a country with free market and that protects peoples individual rights such as equality, universal suffrage.

It has the term liberal in it which can seem confusing, however many of the parties share different bits of ideology, its not cut and dry. Currently all the major parties support free market economy which is essentially Classical Liberalism. For example Thatcher was a Neo-Liberal, she believed in both parts of Classical Liberalism and Conservatism.

I could write for days about this of course as you could argue that we have seen an end of ideologies since the defeat of socialism and when Thatcher left office.
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