Very true Lettie lol, but surestart has really failed at what the set out to do certainly in this area, they are very reluntant to get involved with other community groups designed at areas of the community they deal with. We have a surestart up here - but godknows what it does or whom it caters for here cos they dont advertise or promote themselves but expect that people will come to them - which in many deprived areas people are people, if they dont know about it they wont & also pride thing maybe
