[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by bullseyebarb

Dear Willow, one doesn't make charitable donations with the expectation of getting something in return, (beyond the joy of helping one's fellow man).

My dear Barb, of course one does or they would not be charitable donations would they? But one cannot make charitable donations if one has fallen on hard times oneself can one? Have you misunderstood my post? Old Joe may very well be feeling just as charitable as ever he was but if he can't afford his own bills do you really expect him to carry on paying his charity donations? I stand by my original statement that dependancy on charity is a fragile existence. When people have less disposable income it's the non-essentials which they cut back on first.