[jambutty]

Originally Posted by entwisi

lets face it Jambutty, There seems to be no-one else supporting your views so either a) we are all doomed or b) YOU ARE WRONG. Accept it and move on.

as other have said, the fact that they haven't paid is excactly the same reason that speed cameras are legal. The camera takes your picture and you are convicted of the crime. yes you can take it to court if you wish to challange it just like people who challange their tax bills will NOT have the money taken.

I don’t care that no one else contributing to this discussion holds the same view as I do. We are all entitled to hold whatever view we choose. My view is simply that no one has the right to remove money from my account without my permission or a court order and if the government passes a law to enable this to happen then it is a bad law and WRONG. If you are comfortable with the tax department helping themselves to the money in your account then bully for you.

Let me see if I have got this right entwisi. Because my view is different to yours and a couple of others it is wrong. It seems to me that you are suffering from delusions of grandeur although that is not too surprising for someone who describes himself as a ‘God’. The debate on Ceefax (BBC page 145) and Teletext (ITV1 page 328) is, so far, 100% against the proposal that tax dodgers will have the money taken from their account without a court order or their consent.

So accept it that I have as much right as anyone to have an opinion about an issue and move on.

What have speed cameras got to do with this issue? Oh! I get it. Muddying the waters because your case is so weak and the best that you can do is digress off topic to make your point. Let me remind you that if your get flashed by a speed camera you get ‘that’ letter and you either pay up or challenge it. YOU DO NOT GET MONEY TAKEN FROM YOUR BANK ACCOUNT TO PAY THE FINE even if you don’t pay the fine. You get a court summons. So your point is totally irrelevant to this discussion.