[cashman]

Originally Posted by Rosebud

Yes crime has increased in the half century time frame you identify. Society is much changed also with differing pressures, differing influences and differing problems.
You classically assume that the alternative to your 'hang em and flog em' brigade is to leap to the opposite end of the spectrum ie 'the softly softly' approach. You seem to suggest that locking people up in spartan conditions for a long time is the answer- again not backed up with evidence. We have more people in prison than ever before and you feel that we still have major problems- you cant have it both ways surely.

'Sanctimonious, arrogant prig'? The stock response of the undereducated when faced with anything outside their narrow frame of reference. Its not arrogance its intelligence. (Now thats arrogance!)

theres many with intelligence,few with common sense.