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Originally Posted by panther
since these kids are not old enough to go to a proper prison, then the parents should be punished, they the ones who have brought these kids up, they are the ones who have taught these thugs from right and wrong, so these so called parents should be made to pay the price!!
as someone said on here, its what we would get off our parents that made us behave, corporal punishment should be brought back and borstal reopened!!  then lets see how 'hard' these kids feel! |
Funny this discussion came up yesterday & my 2 who was huffing & puffing at their punishment of no spending money, we compared ours with theirs, lets say shock was one of the looks as we knew the meaning of not sitting down proper for a week!
Did it make us any better for it ? no probably fear of a good hiding after experiencing it was the only hold over behaviour, to either put up & shut up or do a runner, same principle held in domestic violent relationships too! Nowadays counts as child abuse them days discipline!! Many of us that had that discipline at the time vowed never to do that to their children & look for better ways, to which the next generation parenting changed.
As a parent myself with a difficult child, its very hard, i do discipline my children with sanctions & correctional discussions, im very aware of my job as a parent to make sure i bring up decent human beings, but i battle hard with it, i've had many breaking points where i feel im failing as a parent because as much as i try - it doesnt get through despite my best efforts & sometimes u feel to give em a good hiding but i know that wont solve the problem only maybe to exasberate it further, so not an option, only creates more distance, aggression & hatred kind of counter productive & negative. You want your kids to able to confide, talk & not be scared to come to you if theres a problem or advice, so in the event of something bad happening or about to happen you still can help to prevent that. I dont beleive that sparing the rod spoils the child, cos that child grows up & may return that rod to you or to others. There are many ways of disciplining that are more productive - BUT it means a lot of effort, patience & consistancy & THATS what fails for many parents is that they are after quick fixes or instants to save time & effort because they have beter things to do than with their children.
Parents are accountable for their kids, but as with owt else its the ones that are trying & getting nowhere or want help that cop for it more than those who simply cant be arsed - & thats where the problem is.