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Originally Posted by Gayle
I'm not sure that I agree with that. I think from the outside it looks like that but is it not the case that in the 60s there were gangs and bad 'uns just the same as now. Perhaps, the only difference now is that people fight back more, making the gangs and bad 'uns more aggressive. In the glorious olden days (I am being ironic there btw) the police were less likely to intervene with serious gangs - yes, they would have clipped the odd kid around the ear if they stepped out of line, but they were most likely drinking partners with the really bad ones. If you look at families like the Krays (London, not Liverpool but I'm sure Liverpool had its equivalent), the Krays were the law!
So perhaps, turning this argument on its head (and playing devils advocate) the fault is not in the increase in violence but in the increase in policing violence which in turn has allowed smaller gangs to become braver.
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of course there were gangs in the 60s, but was not aware we were talking about organised crime "Krays" and the like, the gangs of teds n the like used to have punch ups, the differance is = with other teds,not kids,n pensioners n the like,something that even evil gits like the Krays would not allow in Bethnal Green,i dont think policing violence will reduce it,you have got to attack the root cause. i would disagree that people fight back more now than way back, in fact i would think Less, cos stabbing,shooting etc could be the end result.