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Originally Posted by churchfcrules
but why is everyone perfectlly happy to scrap a benefit for children, irrelevant of their income, but more than happy to allow malingerers carry on taking state handouts.
also one of my main arguements for forcing the unemployed to work, is that the majority would rather take a real job paying minimum wage than do 40 hours for no extra, plus those working whilst claiming simply couldnt do it.
just as a real job, if the person in question had an interview of course they could attend.
if you agree that the present system is flawed, and is being played by unscrupilious individuals, then change the system, as i said earlier there is no stigma with being on benefits, if there was more people would try harder to get off them,
or better still let all the bleeding hearts have their way and we will all have a pretend illness, claim benefits, let the insurance cover the cost of our mortgage and credit card bills, receive a car insurance and tax paid with regular services thrown in, oh but hang on who would be left to pay the bill no-one, or do you have enough faith in your fellow man that they wouldnt do it, cause i dont sorry!
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The flaw in your argument is that this has already been tried in the late 70s, 80s and 90s. under various schemes such as TOPS and YOPS, YTS, Community Action, ET, EA, and various options under New Deal.
It doesn't work as a sizable amount of these folk have another "income" be it from dealing, burglary or any other illegal activity.
Also with regards the "You're sick but you can do something so we'll force you to type these letters for nothing" arrangement, how long do you think anyone would put up with this before getting another doctors letter stopping them from this.
The only way to get the sick back to work is with a very big carrot (encouragement and empathy) and a small stick, or you will be hit with the headlines "Sick government hits the ill".
Yes there are malingerers and skivers, yes the benefits system needs a revamp but if you just use punitive measures you will hurt the genuine disenfranchised.