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Originally Posted by Cyfr

Couldn't agree more Less.

Nobody has the right to take somebody elses life, regardless of what the person has done. Once you have someone locked up they no longer pose a threat and should thus not be murdered.

Reading this thread shocked me. I thought we lived in a civilised society? It sounded like a bunch of savage dogs tearing a lamb to shreds.

Come on people, we're better than that.

It shocked me too Cyfr, to see the way some people would seem to take pleasure in the thought of making this man suffer as much as possible. That actually makes us worse than him. As far as I'm aware from the reports he didn't gloat over the way the child was killed or take any pleasure in the thought of her suffering. He was simply disposing of what was to him a burden, a problem. If we dispose of him in the same way - get rid of the problem, by the death penalty, then that would put us on a par with him, yet I can see where people feel that would be justifiable, but to actually dream up ways of making him suffer as much as possible, for the sole purpose of making him suffer as much as possible, drags us down below his level and shows that we are no better underneath the surface.

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Let us get all the fact's together, we have a "man" who has already served time for violent related crime. He does his time then goes on to commit these other crimes which he is called to court for. He thinks this girls mother is dead so decides to drop the child amongest some alligators and leaves her to die. Forgive me if I don't feel any sympathy but did he give the child or her mother any? I would imagine the answer is no, so why does he deserve our sympathy? I can't think of a single reason why the death penalty should not prevail in this instance.

No, I don't feel any sympathy for him either and it's not about that. It's about justice. It's about dealing with him in a civilised manner, not for his sake but for ours. I don't have any sympathy for him whatsoever but neither do I want to descend to his level and advocate torturing him to death. Why should I let him turn me into a monster? Why should what he did make it right for others to do the same or worse to him? Doesn't that make us as bad or worse than him if we get some kind of perverse pleasure out of the thought of him suffering? Yes lock him away for life and make sure he can never do anything like that again, but don't take him as your example of correct behaviour. Don't learn from him and emulate him. That would make us far worse than he is.