[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by slinky

Don't bother!! save your fuel and go to the Off License on Willows Lane
They have one of these posters. When I asked about the 21 thingy, they said ' you have to look over 21, or we will ask for I.D '
If I had read the sign before opening my gob, it does state it on the sign lol.

I know. Everywhere I know that sells alcohol has a "Challenge 21" poster. I even tried to explain to Jambutty that it would probably have been a "Challenge 21" poster but he seems to think that the Grimshaw Park ASDA has some sort of ruling of their own so I would just love to see it for myself to prove that it is nothing of the sort and simply the same as everyone else's.

Originally Posted by jambutty

Much obliged for your contribution.

However the law is quite clear – the age for buying booze is 18 or over and for Asda to declare that Asda will not sell booze to anyone who looks under 21, not withstanding the trading laws, is illegal.

Not slow off the mark yerself it’s just that I have been aware of the notice shortly after it came on display. But being over 21 myself it was of no concern to me.

I took notice when the other day a young man, after producing his driving license and passport, was still refused the sale of a bottle of scotch for his granddad’s birthday because he looked under 21.

No, it is not illegal. ASDA is perfectly within it's rights to refuse to sell alcohol (or anything else for that matter) to anyone they wish to refuse to sell it to. Their reason for avoiding selling alcohol to some people is to avoid prosecution for selling to someone under the legal age of 18. The law is that they MUST NOT sell alcohol to people under 18. The law is not that they MUST sell alcohol to people over the age of 18. What you have done is use false logic to draw an erroneous conclusion.

However, that is merely a tangent. You are missing the whole point. You have presumably not read my previous reference to the "challenge 21" scheme which is not limited to one ASDA store but is a national scheme whereby ANYONE who looks under 21 is advised that they will be challenged to prove that they are OVER 18 - please note that OVER 18, not over 21 - before they can buy alcohol.

If someone did produce ID to prove that he was over 18 and then was refused he would certainly have cause to grumble but this is something you have now brought up as an aside after you have been shown to have lost your original argument. There was a case in the paper where a woman was refused because she looked under 21 and still refused even when her adult daughter proved that SHE was over 18! That just proved that a member of staff at the store in question was being plain silly, not that the store itself had an illegal policy.

Originally Posted by jambutty

In case it escaped your notice the thread was to point out the illegality of Asda decreeing that they would not sell alcohol to anyone who appears to be under 21.

I really must see these posters in your ASDA - or did it possibly escape your notice that the number 18 appears on those posters?

Originally Posted by jambutty

I would just like to say thank you to the torag who rang me a few minutes ago with the intent of having an argument. He refused to identify himself when I asked who he was so he was told to go away in the traditional Anglo Saxon way.

This must have made him really livid because after a few seconds he rang back but I didn’t pick up and he finally gave up when, I presume, he couldn’t hold the phone receiver to his ear any longer. What a sad dork!

Are we really expected to believe that an AccyWebber would go to all the trouble of ringing you up to argue with you about this?

Thanks Jambutty, for such an entertaining thread. Best laugh I've had all week.


P.S. Please look at the attached images, read all of the text, take time to inwardly digest it and then have a think about it and you might just be able to understand what people have been trying to tell you.