[derekgas]

No respect, no discipline, no authority, no fear. I still say parents are to blame ultimately, but agree with bb that parents have become more tolerant along the generations. It sounds harsh, but here is my recipe for the making of better people. The parents have no fear of thier children being taken away from them, thus they have no reason to sort them out unless the damage is to thier own property etc. Hanging, flogging, the stocks, national service, boot camp, borstal, boarding schools, hard time prison, give the police the control of the streets back and bin all the paperwork and red tape, give the teachers thier control back, including the cane, the slipper and the dunces cap, it would take 20 years to make a complete difference, but I am sure that if all the above were returned over time, improvements would be startling initially and steadily things would improve, abolish the compensation nation attitude and the human rights stupidity too. And before the do gooders start shouting about this being barbaric, I find all the murders, rapings, child molestation etc barbaric, and before they get on the human rights pedestal, what about our rights to walk the streets safe, and able to leave belongings in your car or garden without fear of theft, and to allow my kids to the park alone without fear of violence or idiotic drivers? Excellent thread panther!