[garinda]

I've never really taken to Jack and Ve.

She was funny back in the old days at Baldwin's Casuals, with her best mate Ivy Tillsley. Always ready to skive, or call a strike, and all very Rag Trade.

The last ten years or so, the writers have given her a bum deal, and in my opinion have made her a bit pathetic, with Jack and Vera becoming little more than pantomime characters, which I think is unfair to Liz Dawn, who could easily have risen to the challenge of a meatier role.

It was sad. I'm sure people that watched all imagined the times when they've faced death, and yes I shed a tear, only one mind, when Tyrone hugged Vera's grandson Paul, even though he knows he's a bad un.