[derekgas]

"We aren't born with the obligation to grow up and work til we're on our death beds, and if people want to be jobless then thats upto them, but lets not essentially punish them by forcing them into something like fighting for the country, i think its immoral when its not actually a necessity right now."

I think we were born with an obligation to work and look after ourselves and ours, and we shouldn't be keeping the jobless because they don't see fit to work (the ones that think that, not the unintentionally unemployed), if they don't want to work, fine, but don't pay them for it! Nobody is suggesting forcing anybody to fight for the country, that should still be voluntary, and somebody thinks fighting for the country is necessary, or we wouldn't be doing it.