View Single Post
Old 30-01-2008, 08:40   #16
blazey
God Member
 
blazey's Avatar
 

Re: Can anyone help?

Quote:
Originally Posted by keetah992000 View Post
My partner works iwth a lot of Polish people -this is his experience-not his opinion:

the polish save up their money - then they go back to poland for at least a month at a time and spend that money they have earned here over there ( so that isnt too good for the British economy)
My partner gets 16 days holiday in a year plus bank holidays- ask for anymore time off - you wont get it unless it is an absolute emergency take any time you may need for a family emergency and you get your p45 through the post ( it has happened twice with english workers - damned hard workers at that )
BUT if you are Polish you can use your holidays up - and then dissappear after taking those holidays and come back and your job will still be there for you .(one worker left for three months after booking two weeks holiday and walked straight back into his job)
The Polish workers did work really hard whilst they were still on the agency books -but once taken on by the company - workload suddenly slowed down-One of the women has even been called an ignorant pig becasue she asked two polish workers - having a conversation in polish across her -to speak in english, which they can do pretty fluently.

Blazey just because i have quoted you doesnt mean that i am having a go - just pointing out the other side of the coin as it were.

i understand that the empolyers are pertly to blame for this but as are the polish workers because they take the liberties in the first place.
Its ok, I can understand your husbands views. I have worked with a lot of british people who couldn't give a toss about the job to the point you'd think they didn't want to keep it or get paid. Would be bit ignorant of me to hate every single person who was born in england though wouldn't it just because i've only worked with lazy people so far.

I dont care whether people want to speak in their native languages as well, perhaps thats because I go to uni with so many people from different nationalities that I'd be spending way too much time wanting people to speak english. Out of interest though, if a conversation clearly doesn't include your friend, why should she want them to speak in English? Does she get comfort from listening into other peoples conversations? Is she insecure enough to think they might be talking about her perhaps, or was she asking them just for the sake of it? I dont quite understand our need for people to speak english so much.

We're a nation that is lazy with languages to the extent we are known for simply shouting our own slowly and loudly in other peoples countries with the hope that just might make it easier for them to understand. People complain about foreigners not bothering to learn our language and yet many people go working abroad whilst travelling and they dont learn every language they come across, and i'm sure they'd still speak in English to their english co-travellers too rather than stumble along in broken .......... (fill in the language!).

I think we often forget how ignorant we actually are when it comes to other countries and their people, whether its in their country or our own. I cant speak any other language than english, just bits of french and spanish, not enough for a conversation. How many people on here ared fluent in a foreign language, and how many of those who are fluent are because they have foreign relatives themselves be they in another country or immigrants to this one? I think its highly ironic that we can whinge about people from the same country speaking to each other in their native language but we as a nation are known for our laziness with foreign languages, to the extent that they're going to start teaching them in primary schools with the hope that it'll catch on.
blazey is offline   Reply With Quote
Accrington Web