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Originally Posted by jambutty
Like many people you assume that you know it all. Well let me put you straight on a few points.
I grew up as a child of a single parent family in the days when there was no social security only National Assistance, which was a pittance. I spent time living in a workhouse because we had nowhere to go.
When we eventually managed to get a home of our own my mother was obliged to take in lodgers to pay the rent. She was unable to work because of ill health gained, if that is the right word, by the ravages of WWII.
I left school at 15 to work down the pit as, for want of a better description, a pseudo pit pony. For my efforts my wage of £3 –1 –3d went towards the family budget. I got 5 shillings as my pocket money but I was allowed to keep my overtime earnings. And overtime I did. Up to 20 hours a week in a hell hole shovelling coal dust away from a conveyor so that it wouldn’t clog up the works. And that was after six hours of pushing a tub of coal weighing several hundredweight from the coal face to the ‘chain’ some 200 yards away.
I volunteered to join the Royal Navy at the age of 16 years and 10 months and served until my 30th birthday. It was my good fortune that I was not involved in a major conflict but nonetheless we still lost three good guys in Cyprus when the EOKA terrorists were trying to get rid of the British.
I have done my bit for my country. What have you done except take, take, take?
In later life I spent some 15 years as a single parent and also holding down a full time job for most of the time. So I know all about the trials and tribulations that life can chuck at someone.
I know everything about being a single father and in those days the benefits were nowhere near as generous as they are today. So I have every right to get all high and mighty. Certainly more right than you do.
So before you shoot your mouth off try to remember you are not the only person on this planet.
However I never stated that it is easier on benefits. But hey! Why let the truth get in the way of your tirade. I stated, “So don’t blame the worker for not wanting to work when more can be had on state benefits.”
The jobless didn’t lay down the benefit rules. You can hardly blame them for using the rules if they allow the work shy to prosper.
The older generation laid down the foundations that have been abused by greedy employers in their quest for more and more profits.
So you think that there is pride in being able to fund things yourself do you? Let me see – pride – arrogance, conceit, smugness, superiority, self-importance. That says it all for me.
Pride comes before the fall.
The greater majority of the older generation worked hard so that you and your generation can live as you do.
Notice - not a single swear word anywhere.
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Better to work hard and risk a fall than have never stood on your own two feet.
I never assumed you weren't from a family on benefits, I said you haven't experienced it in this generation to be able to make such a claim. The members of this forum whinge about Polish people having all the factory jobs and then contradict themselves by favouring living off benefits anyway.
Labour, conservative, bnp... whoever you vote for will make no difference, as neither party can work miracles. But I for one refuse to sit down and accept I can live happily on benefits if I choose when I could be working towards something else. University ISN'T all funded, I will leave university with easily £20000 debt and still have to fund more education and training. If it wasn't for loans I wouldn't be here, because grants dont even cover enough for the living costs never mind the books, travel, food etc. And I will have to pay it back, and whilst doing that I'll be working and paying taxes that go towards pensions and care homes for elderly people that sit at the pc all day claiming living off benefits is better than working for under £6 an hour.
Would you be more satisfied if I got pregnant and dropped out of uni, is that whats more accepted in accrington? Is that what you expect of your grandchildren?