[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by katex

Just as an addition to this, noticed there will be a piece in the Observer tomorrow, and Cllr. Britcliffe said that he had asked people sat near to him if they heard this remark. They all replied in the negative .. nowt to do with the fact that the people were all Conservative councillors of course..

Not that he speaks very loudly mind you, but if Claytonender and I heard it from the balcony, surely they heard it from the floor !?!?!

I find this even more worrying. Perhaps some of them genuinely didn't hear, perhaps we should give them the benefit of the doubt. But are they then implying that because they didn't hear it, it wasn't said? By that they are inferring that Katex and Claytonender are liars. Katex and Claytonender have nothing to gain by lying but the Conservative Councillors do have something to lose by telling the truth.

Again I draw the old conclusion that HBC is somewhat akin to the Borg and that it is pointless to try to have principles because they will be overridden - the only way to survive within the collective is to become as one.