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Originally Posted by Neil

Who mentioned colour?

I did - I was pointing out one of the fallible criteria people use to decide whether someone they see is Muslim. They see a brown face and Indian/Pakistani features and jump to conclusions about the person's religious affiliation.

Originally Posted by Loz

It just seems like muslims are quick to denounce walkers because they put a tiny ampount of alcohol in crisps but don't seem to mind the ones that drink.

You have made an illogical comparitive assumption here. There are people who do not wish to consume alcohol in any form who have expressed the wish that it be noted on crisp packets so that they themselves can make the informed choice whether or not to eat them. They do not condemn Walkers. They are making a request. They are not saying that no-one else should ever eat Walkers crisps, nor are they even saying that Walkers should not use this method of production. They are simply asking that the information be available so that they know and in my opinion that is not an unreasonable request. As I have already said, for anyone who has a peanut allergy it is vitally important that they know if something could contain a trace of nuts. That doesn't mean contains nuts, it means can have been produced on the same production line as a previous confection containing nuts.

Now whether or not there are people who appear to be Muslim (whether because of their clothing or their physical appearance) and yet are not living Muslim standards, ie drink alcohol, gamble or whatever else (ham sandwich, pork scratchings) that has absolutely no bearing on the matter whatsoever. What one person chooses to do should not affect another person who chooses not to do it. At one time Catholics did not eat meat on Fridays but if one person who was born into a Catholic family yet did not believe in the Catholic faith and only attended mass because they were dragged along by the family, if that one person was to be seen in McDonalds on a Friday evening eating a burger would that make hypocrites of the whole of the Catholic church? Of course not. So what you are saying about 'don't seem to mind the ones that drink' is irrelevant. Muslims (albeit not very devout ones if they drink alcohol) who choose to drink have their own free choice and agency and can choose to do what the heck they like. That shouldn't mean that Muslims who choose not to drink should not be kept informed when a product contains alcohol.